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	<title>Comments on: Pending changes to Canadian mortgage rules may bite hard</title>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug, if they raise rates I think they&#039;ll make it substantial enough such that they may not have to raise them again in the short term. Maybe 50 points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug, if they raise rates I think they&#8217;ll make it substantial enough such that they may not have to raise them again in the short term. Maybe 50 points.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately I think Doug is right.  Strong Canadian dollar doesn&#039;t give BOC much leeway to raise rates, especially if other countries are holding their rates down.  With 10% unemployment in the US there is just no option for rate increases right now, similar situation in Europe.  So you had it otherwise right westcan, if we raise rates our dollar goes up even more which hurts our economy but actually causes deflation because of cheaper imports and shut down in export industries.

I actually saw a blurb that the BOC or maybe it&#039;s the federal government, might interfere directly in the currency market by SELLING our currency to try to decrease it&#039;s value so that they can leave interest rates.   So think about it, they lower interest rates and that causes a housing bubble, solution change mortgage rules because the economy needs the lower rates, that still isn&#039;t enough so further tighten mortgage qualifications.  Lower interest rates are still not enough to weaken currency which is hammering our economy, can&#039;t lower interest rates anymore, solution, sell our own currency.    Does anybody really know what they&#039;re doing because I sure can&#039;t figure it out. This won&#039;t end well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately I think Doug is right.  Strong Canadian dollar doesn&#8217;t give BOC much leeway to raise rates, especially if other countries are holding their rates down.  With 10% unemployment in the US there is just no option for rate increases right now, similar situation in Europe.  So you had it otherwise right westcan, if we raise rates our dollar goes up even more which hurts our economy but actually causes deflation because of cheaper imports and shut down in export industries.</p>
<p>I actually saw a blurb that the BOC or maybe it&#8217;s the federal government, might interfere directly in the currency market by SELLING our currency to try to decrease it&#8217;s value so that they can leave interest rates.   So think about it, they lower interest rates and that causes a housing bubble, solution change mortgage rules because the economy needs the lower rates, that still isn&#8217;t enough so further tighten mortgage qualifications.  Lower interest rates are still not enough to weaken currency which is hammering our economy, can&#8217;t lower interest rates anymore, solution, sell our own currency.    Does anybody really know what they&#8217;re doing because I sure can&#8217;t figure it out. This won&#8217;t end well.</p>
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		<title>By: Westcanguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Westcanguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Doug. I stand corrected as imports would be cheaper. I still believe if our dollar grows too much, we&#039;ll see rates rise sooner than we expected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Doug. I stand corrected as imports would be cheaper. I still believe if our dollar grows too much, we&#8217;ll see rates rise sooner than we expected.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If our dollar goes up, things we import get cheaper.  Inflation happens when the money and credit supply increase.  Prices are only a sympton of inflation not the cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If our dollar goes up, things we import get cheaper.  Inflation happens when the money and credit supply increase.  Prices are only a sympton of inflation not the cause.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What really constitutes a housing bubble?  Is all of Canada in a housing bubble, or just certain parts?  I think most would agree that we at least overvalued here, but have we crossed that bubble line?  
Jason, what size of rate hike do you think will happen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What really constitutes a housing bubble?  Is all of Canada in a housing bubble, or just certain parts?  I think most would agree that we at least overvalued here, but have we crossed that bubble line?<br />
Jason, what size of rate hike do you think will happen?</p>
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		<title>By: Westcanguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Westcanguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think an important variable being overlooked is the value of our dollar. It was expected to reach parity with the USD by this summer. Some economists are now saying that it could be a lot sooner. If that happens, inflation sets in because everything we import becomes more expensive and our exports become more expensive for other countries to purchase. In order to control inflation, the BOC has to raise interest rates. Now, if that happens, worldwide money markets will invest more in CDN dollars because of the return which inturn inflates the value of our dollar even more.
As rates go up, traders bail out of the bond market because the value of what they are holding goes down because new bonds offer a higher yield. That costs the bank more to fund so they have no choice but to raise mortgage rates(fixed long term rates that the gov&#039;t is making new mortgages qualify with).
At least that&#039;s how I understand it....If I&#039;m wrong, I&#039;m sure someone will be happy to correct me. Anyways, depending on what happens with our dollar in the next month or 2, some people may get caught by surprise with an earlier than anticipated rate increase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think an important variable being overlooked is the value of our dollar. It was expected to reach parity with the USD by this summer. Some economists are now saying that it could be a lot sooner. If that happens, inflation sets in because everything we import becomes more expensive and our exports become more expensive for other countries to purchase. In order to control inflation, the BOC has to raise interest rates. Now, if that happens, worldwide money markets will invest more in CDN dollars because of the return which inturn inflates the value of our dollar even more.<br />
As rates go up, traders bail out of the bond market because the value of what they are holding goes down because new bonds offer a higher yield. That costs the bank more to fund so they have no choice but to raise mortgage rates(fixed long term rates that the gov&#8217;t is making new mortgages qualify with).<br />
At least that&#8217;s how I understand it&#8230;.If I&#8217;m wrong, I&#8217;m sure someone will be happy to correct me. Anyways, depending on what happens with our dollar in the next month or 2, some people may get caught by surprise with an earlier than anticipated rate increase.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy, just to clarify, the implied &quot;rushes&quot; were with respect to mortgage applications prior to the April 19 cutoff and the tentative rate hike in July. As for sales, I think this will be highly dependent on availability - both in terms of units on the market and pre-qualified buyers - both of which are going to change radically after April 19 (probably more sellers rushing to market at the same time we see less people able to qualify). If we see a rate hike in July (and there are no indications that we won&#039;t), say hello to a Canadian housing bubble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy, just to clarify, the implied &#8220;rushes&#8221; were with respect to mortgage applications prior to the April 19 cutoff and the tentative rate hike in July. As for sales, I think this will be highly dependent on availability &#8211; both in terms of units on the market and pre-qualified buyers &#8211; both of which are going to change radically after April 19 (probably more sellers rushing to market at the same time we see less people able to qualify). If we see a rate hike in July (and there are no indications that we won&#8217;t), say hello to a Canadian housing bubble.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason
 I don&#039;t know... if Brian (post #4 above) is right and if, as some other articles posted here have argued, interest rates don&#039;t get hiked until next summer we may not see any rush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason<br />
 I don&#8217;t know&#8230; if Brian (post #4 above) is right and if, as some other articles posted here have argued, interest rates don&#8217;t get hiked until next summer we may not see any rush.</p>
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		<title>By: Norm Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norm Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.twitter.com/jenct&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jen&#039;s Twitter&lt;/a&gt; stream, CMHC&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://teamfisher.com/pdfreports/cmhc_qualifying_interest_rate.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;memo&lt;/a&gt; clarifying how the &quot;qualifying rate&quot; will work. As best I can tell it&#039;s pretty much as Rob suggested it would be is his post which I referenced in the main body of this post.

&quot;For loans with a fixed rate term of less than 5 years and for all variable rate mortgages, regardless of the term, the qualifying interest rate is the greater of the benchmark rate, and the contract interest rate. For loans with a fixed rate term of five years or morw, the qualifying rate is the contract interest rate.&quot;

I suppose this makes the five-year fixed the most popular mortgage term as we move forward.

If II opt for the three-year fixed term which is available today at 4.15% &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rbcroyalbank.com/products/mortgages/view_rates.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;(RBC)&lt;/a&gt;, the lender will determine if I can afford the payments using the current five-year fixed rate of 5.25%. If I opt for the five-year fixed they may qualify me using the special discounted rate currently offered on that product of 4.15%. Same scenario regardless of where I shop including a broker. Seems like a sound policy to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From <a href="http://www.twitter.com/jenct" rel="nofollow">Jen&#8217;s Twitter</a> stream, CMHC&#8217;s <a href="http://teamfisher.com/pdfreports/cmhc_qualifying_interest_rate.pdf" rel="nofollow">memo</a> clarifying how the &#8220;qualifying rate&#8221; will work. As best I can tell it&#8217;s pretty much as Rob suggested it would be is his post which I referenced in the main body of this post.</p>
<p>&#8220;For loans with a fixed rate term of less than 5 years and for all variable rate mortgages, regardless of the term, the qualifying interest rate is the greater of the benchmark rate, and the contract interest rate. For loans with a fixed rate term of five years or morw, the qualifying rate is the contract interest rate.&#8221;</p>
<p>I suppose this makes the five-year fixed the most popular mortgage term as we move forward.</p>
<p>If II opt for the three-year fixed term which is available today at 4.15% <a href="http://www.rbcroyalbank.com/products/mortgages/view_rates.html" rel="nofollow">(RBC)</a>, the lender will determine if I can afford the payments using the current five-year fixed rate of 5.25%. If I opt for the five-year fixed they may qualify me using the special discounted rate currently offered on that product of 4.15%. Same scenario regardless of where I shop including a broker. Seems like a sound policy to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;On February 16, Finance Minister Jim Flaherty announced new rules that affect mortgage lenders and borrowers starting on April 19 of this year.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

The first three weeks of April should be brisk at financial institutions, with everyone rushing out to get pre-approved before the cutoff date. The latter part of April and the month of May is shaping up to be a gong show for housing bids, as people face off against each other with their respective debt service ceilings. Then we&#039;ll see another rush in June - right before interest rates get hiked. I think if you were planning to sell this year, you&#039;ve got a 3-5 month window of peak opportunity (Mar-July).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;On February 16, Finance Minister Jim Flaherty announced new rules that affect mortgage lenders and borrowers starting on April 19 of this year.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>The first three weeks of April should be brisk at financial institutions, with everyone rushing out to get pre-approved before the cutoff date. The latter part of April and the month of May is shaping up to be a gong show for housing bids, as people face off against each other with their respective debt service ceilings. Then we&#8217;ll see another rush in June &#8211; right before interest rates get hiked. I think if you were planning to sell this year, you&#8217;ve got a 3-5 month window of peak opportunity (Mar-July).</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Norm you are a great guy hosting a great website, :).

Average house price $93000, that was probably census data from year 2000 and cited by someone in 2005???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norm you are a great guy hosting a great website, <img src='http://www.teamfisher.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>Average house price $93000, that was probably census data from year 2000 and cited by someone in 2005???</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IF you think THAT&#039;S outdated....I came across a neibourhood profile on Wikipedia of Lawson Heights that stated (from 2005) that the average household income was $49,000 and the average house price was $93,000.

Although it is wikipedia I almost spit out my coke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IF you think THAT&#8217;S outdated&#8230;.I came across a neibourhood profile on Wikipedia of Lawson Heights that stated (from 2005) that the average household income was $49,000 and the average house price was $93,000.</p>
<p>Although it is wikipedia I almost spit out my coke.</p>
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		<title>By: Norm Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norm Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bill,

Thanks for the props.

The Shelter Foundation is a terrific organization that does amazing work across Canada to support women and children who are fleeing abusive situations. It&#039;s near and dear to my heart because I happen to know and love some women who have been subjected to abuse at some point in their lives. Guess what. You likely do as well. Sadly, we all do, because abuse against women is still all too common. 

The Shelter Foundation has raised over $10 million dollars for shelters and violence prevention programs since its inception with momentum really building in recent years. It&#039;s unique in that every penny of administrative costs are absorbed by Royal LePage, so every dime of every contribution we make finds its way directly into a shelter to do its work. Better yet, the foundation provides an opportunity for donors to direct their dollars to specific shelters. Consequently, every dollar raised or donated in Saskatoon is put to work in Saskatoon at either Interval House or the YWCA Crisis Shelter.

I am always reluctant to raise our involvement with the Shelter Foundation. I&#039;m sure you can appreciate the conundrum in attempting to promote a worthy cause through ones business without coming off as braggadocious, or worse, to appear to be exploiting such terrible circumstances. At the same time, there is a growing passion inside of me to accelerate our efforts and do more, so I know I need to find ways in which I can comfortably discuss the foundation and the work that we&#039;re doing to support it here in Saskatoon. Thank you for opening that door for me today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bill,</p>
<p>Thanks for the props.</p>
<p>The Shelter Foundation is a terrific organization that does amazing work across Canada to support women and children who are fleeing abusive situations. It&#8217;s near and dear to my heart because I happen to know and love some women who have been subjected to abuse at some point in their lives. Guess what. You likely do as well. Sadly, we all do, because abuse against women is still all too common. </p>
<p>The Shelter Foundation has raised over $10 million dollars for shelters and violence prevention programs since its inception with momentum really building in recent years. It&#8217;s unique in that every penny of administrative costs are absorbed by Royal LePage, so every dime of every contribution we make finds its way directly into a shelter to do its work. Better yet, the foundation provides an opportunity for donors to direct their dollars to specific shelters. Consequently, every dollar raised or donated in Saskatoon is put to work in Saskatoon at either Interval House or the YWCA Crisis Shelter.</p>
<p>I am always reluctant to raise our involvement with the Shelter Foundation. I&#8217;m sure you can appreciate the conundrum in attempting to promote a worthy cause through ones business without coming off as braggadocious, or worse, to appear to be exploiting such terrible circumstances. At the same time, there is a growing passion inside of me to accelerate our efforts and do more, so I know I need to find ways in which I can comfortably discuss the foundation and the work that we&#8217;re doing to support it here in Saskatoon. Thank you for opening that door for me today.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not on topic but some kudos for Norm. Royal LePage Canada have announced their top 10 donors to the Royal LePage Shelter Foundation and guess who is number 3 in Canada - Saskatoon&#039;s own Norm Fisher! Congratulations Norm!! Great work for a great cause.
For more information on the Shelter Foundation click here: http://www.royallepage.ca/CMSTemplates/AboutUs/ShelterFoundation/ShelterTemplateL.aspx?id=1780</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not on topic but some kudos for Norm. Royal LePage Canada have announced their top 10 donors to the Royal LePage Shelter Foundation and guess who is number 3 in Canada &#8211; Saskatoon&#8217;s own Norm Fisher! Congratulations Norm!! Great work for a great cause.<br />
For more information on the Shelter Foundation click here: <a href="http://www.royallepage.ca/CMSTemplates/AboutUs/ShelterFoundation/ShelterTemplateL.aspx?id=1780" rel="nofollow">http://www.royallepage.ca/CMSTemplates/AboutUs/ShelterFoundation/ShelterTemplateL.aspx?id=1780</a></p>
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		<title>By: Norm Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norm Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyzon &amp; Cindy,

This RBC study doesn&#039;t suggest that these people think the average price is $182K, rather that they plan on investing $182K on average. Keep in mind that we&#039;re also talking about a provincial study. The average selling price of a home between the two provinces is about $217K, and first-timers normally spend below the average.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyzon &#038; Cindy,</p>
<p>This RBC study doesn&#8217;t suggest that these people think the average price is $182K, rather that they plan on investing $182K on average. Keep in mind that we&#8217;re also talking about a provincial study. The average selling price of a home between the two provinces is about $217K, and first-timers normally spend below the average.</p>
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		<title>By: Norm Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norm Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>L.oki,

Let me guess; you got laid off? :)

Nice to see you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>L.oki,</p>
<p>Let me guess; you got laid off? <img src='http://www.teamfisher.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Nice to see you.</p>
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		<title>By: L.oki</title>
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		<dc:creator>L.oki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>house prices are out of control...

...it is almost like someone is manipulating the market with artificially low interest rates in order to spur economic growth...oh wait...that is exactly what is happening! 

Bubble here we come!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>house prices are out of control&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;it is almost like someone is manipulating the market with artificially low interest rates in order to spur economic growth&#8230;oh wait&#8230;that is exactly what is happening! </p>
<p>Bubble here we come!</p>
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		<title>By: Tyzon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyzon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They think the average house is $180,000? LOL
Did they interview high school kids? LOL
They are all going to be living in their parents basements!
Wait, I live in my parents basement! :(
House prices are depressing, I think I&#039;m going to leave!
I didn&#039;t want to work in a potash mine or at fast food anyway!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They think the average house is $180,000? LOL<br />
Did they interview high school kids? LOL<br />
They are all going to be living in their parents basements!<br />
Wait, I live in my parents basement! <img src='http://www.teamfisher.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
House prices are depressing, I think I&#8217;m going to leave!<br />
I didn&#8217;t want to work in a potash mine or at fast food anyway!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.teamfisher.com/pending-changes-to-canadian-mortgage-rules-may-bite-hard/#comment-15356</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven,

&quot;you are free to dispute me&quot;

I know I&#039;m free to do this, that&#039;s what I just did.

Quite frankly, your numbers were cherry picked to highlight a point.  You chose from the start of the fall boom until now.   To get a true picture of relative &#039;seasons&#039; you would need to include another of the same... season.   But to compare spring to fall just isn&#039;t that meaningful.  

If you ran a graph of the stock market from march 2009 when it bottomed out until now you could draw the conclusion that the stock market has to be the greatest investment ever, I mean it pretty much does nothing but go up!  However, if you pulled the graph back to start of 2008 you would have a completely different perception.  What you have done is the equivalent of drawing a graph from march 2009 until today.

Not to say your data is incorrect, I&#039;m sure it is accurate.  It just doesn&#039;t have enough context to aid in analyzing a decision that involves several hundred thousand dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven,</p>
<p>&#8220;you are free to dispute me&#8221;</p>
<p>I know I&#8217;m free to do this, that&#8217;s what I just did.</p>
<p>Quite frankly, your numbers were cherry picked to highlight a point.  You chose from the start of the fall boom until now.   To get a true picture of relative &#8217;seasons&#8217; you would need to include another of the same&#8230; season.   But to compare spring to fall just isn&#8217;t that meaningful.  </p>
<p>If you ran a graph of the stock market from march 2009 when it bottomed out until now you could draw the conclusion that the stock market has to be the greatest investment ever, I mean it pretty much does nothing but go up!  However, if you pulled the graph back to start of 2008 you would have a completely different perception.  What you have done is the equivalent of drawing a graph from march 2009 until today.</p>
<p>Not to say your data is incorrect, I&#8217;m sure it is accurate.  It just doesn&#8217;t have enough context to aid in analyzing a decision that involves several hundred thousand dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://www.teamfisher.com/pending-changes-to-canadian-mortgage-rules-may-bite-hard/#comment-15351</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Markets have the personality of a manic depressive person. Fundamentally the person needs food, shelter, and water. However, take away a manic depressive&#039;s calming drugs and rational maintenance of their food, shelter, and water get thrown out the window. 

Ya know, boom and bust cycles co-exist with monetary expansion (credit easing) and monetary contraction (credit tightening).  Credit easing  is like taking a manic&#039;s drugs away, and credit tightening is prescribing the manic drugs. For the past couple years the real estate market has had no proper dose of calming drugs (fundamentals).

Mortgage innovations over the past years has been like an intern trying to find a better drug therapy for the manic&#039;s desired lifestyle at the manic&#039;s expense. Well, now that the intern sees that the doctors were right about the correct fundamental drugs. The intern agrees that due to the manic&#039;s condition, the manic cannot sustain the lifestyle he seeks. The manic needs to be returned to the proper drugs with an increased dosage to get him to the rational state that will allow him to maintain proper levels of food, shelter, and water.

Like it or not, the new rules are an increased dosage of fundamentals. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Markets have the personality of a manic depressive person. Fundamentally the person needs food, shelter, and water. However, take away a manic depressive&#8217;s calming drugs and rational maintenance of their food, shelter, and water get thrown out the window. </p>
<p>Ya know, boom and bust cycles co-exist with monetary expansion (credit easing) and monetary contraction (credit tightening).  Credit easing  is like taking a manic&#8217;s drugs away, and credit tightening is prescribing the manic drugs. For the past couple years the real estate market has had no proper dose of calming drugs (fundamentals).</p>
<p>Mortgage innovations over the past years has been like an intern trying to find a better drug therapy for the manic&#8217;s desired lifestyle at the manic&#8217;s expense. Well, now that the intern sees that the doctors were right about the correct fundamental drugs. The intern agrees that due to the manic&#8217;s condition, the manic cannot sustain the lifestyle he seeks. The manic needs to be returned to the proper drugs with an increased dosage to get him to the rational state that will allow him to maintain proper levels of food, shelter, and water.</p>
<p>Like it or not, the new rules are an increased dosage of fundamentals. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
		<link>http://www.teamfisher.com/pending-changes-to-canadian-mortgage-rules-may-bite-hard/#comment-15350</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Dawna, perhaps that&#039;s why people surveyed came up with the number of $182,233. So if they know the number has to be doubled, are they still willing to invest??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Dawna, perhaps that&#8217;s why people surveyed came up with the number of $182,233. So if they know the number has to be doubled, are they still willing to invest??</p>
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		<title>By: Dawna</title>
		<link>http://www.teamfisher.com/pending-changes-to-canadian-mortgage-rules-may-bite-hard/#comment-15348</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The RBC survey is dated! The survey took place between January 8 and 13, 2010. The dynamics of the market have changed since then. Changes in mortgage rules would require a new survey to more accurate measure the current market.&quot;

The dynamics have changed in 2 months?!
If everything changes every 2 months with minor rule changes that must mean a lot of people are living on the edge of being able to afford anything.

Maybe the dynamics have changed, but the fundamentals haven&#039;t?
Probably all along for  a few years now the fundamentals haven&#039;t been up to matching the perceived local value of a 1950&#039;s style house that wouldn&#039;t have fetched more than $100,000 a few short years ago, but now is $250,000?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The RBC survey is dated! The survey took place between January 8 and 13, 2010. The dynamics of the market have changed since then. Changes in mortgage rules would require a new survey to more accurate measure the current market.&#8221;</p>
<p>The dynamics have changed in 2 months?!<br />
If everything changes every 2 months with minor rule changes that must mean a lot of people are living on the edge of being able to afford anything.</p>
<p>Maybe the dynamics have changed, but the fundamentals haven&#8217;t?<br />
Probably all along for  a few years now the fundamentals haven&#8217;t been up to matching the perceived local value of a 1950&#8217;s style house that wouldn&#8217;t have fetched more than $100,000 a few short years ago, but now is $250,000?</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://www.teamfisher.com/pending-changes-to-canadian-mortgage-rules-may-bite-hard/#comment-15347</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You need more data to take into account seasonal factors&quot;. Whatever! Peter, you are free to dispute me and make your case by providing your own graph with more months. 

To me, sales look to be trending downward, and new listings are trending upwards since the announcement. In a normal season; which I think is illustrated in the graph from Dec09 to the announcement, sales and new listing trends are somewhat tracing each other in the same direction. The trend tracements of sale and new listings stops and does not continue after the announcement.

Again, if you wish to dispute me. You are free to insanely go back multiple years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You need more data to take into account seasonal factors&#8221;. Whatever! Peter, you are free to dispute me and make your case by providing your own graph with more months. </p>
<p>To me, sales look to be trending downward, and new listings are trending upwards since the announcement. In a normal season; which I think is illustrated in the graph from Dec09 to the announcement, sales and new listing trends are somewhat tracing each other in the same direction. The trend tracements of sale and new listings stops and does not continue after the announcement.</p>
<p>Again, if you wish to dispute me. You are free to insanely go back multiple years.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 01:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven, any graph of any economic series needs to include multiple years of data to have any relevance.  You have 6 or 7 months, that is not enough.  You need more data to take into account seasonal factors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven, any graph of any economic series needs to include multiple years of data to have any relevance.  You have 6 or 7 months, that is not enough.  You need more data to take into account seasonal factors.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://www.teamfisher.com/pending-changes-to-canadian-mortgage-rules-may-bite-hard/#comment-15341</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The RBC survey is dated! The survey took place between January 8 and 13, 2010. The dynamics of the market have changed since then. Changes in mortgage rules would require a new survey to more accurate measure the current market.

I&#039;m tossing the survey in the garbage.

Anyhow, looks more like people are running to exit the market to me.
Nice fresh daily sales vs new listings graph at http://twitpic.com/17kg7b.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The RBC survey is dated! The survey took place between January 8 and 13, 2010. The dynamics of the market have changed since then. Changes in mortgage rules would require a new survey to more accurate measure the current market.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m tossing the survey in the garbage.</p>
<p>Anyhow, looks more like people are running to exit the market to me.<br />
Nice fresh daily sales vs new listings graph at <a href="http://twitpic.com/17kg7b" rel="nofollow">http://twitpic.com/17kg7b</a>.</p>
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